tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post8112922166308538291..comments2023-06-27T10:33:35.086-04:00Comments on kirbycairo: When Our Leaders Want to "beat people up," You know we Haven't come Far. . . . Kirbycairohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17528654183160305877noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-26675247639531690092016-07-30T21:25:30.072-04:002016-07-30T21:25:30.072-04:00Just to be clear I recently I recently said about ...Just to be clear I <a href="http://warrenkinsella.com/2016/07/the-ballot-question-bill-clinton-defines-the-choice-in-2016/#comment-278966" rel="nofollow">recently</a> I recently said about Trump, "He is a incoherient, hatefilled narcissist with the intelligence of Rob Ford and the paranoia of Richard Nixon. If elected he will either be quickly impeached or destroy American democracy." Certainly I left room to be both more insulting and/or more poetic with my statement.doconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15565204091335699228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-53588377274833971382016-07-30T18:52:09.015-04:002016-07-30T18:52:09.015-04:00@ BM - Your comment is, I am afraid, entirely too ...@ BM - Your comment is, I am afraid, entirely too obtuse, and I am not even sure what your point or position is. <br /><br />@ Bernie Orbust: First of all, please site one example of where I defended HIllary Clinton. Your criticisms of her are all entirely legitimate and I am not sure I would disagree with any of them. My criticisms of Trump were exactly that: criticisms of Trump, not a defence of Hillary Clinton. I think one can make a concerted argument that Hillary is the "lesser of two evils." However, I never made that argument. A critic of someone is not a priori an endorsement of someone else. As for your claim that I censor comments, that too is unfounded. I am not sure where this is coming from, and the appearance of your comment is a demonstration of your falsehood. <br /><br />Why is it that it that comment boards seem to drive people to make blatantly counterfactual, and abusive comments? Kirbycairohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17528654183160305877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-55386155948904949662016-07-30T17:53:00.997-04:002016-07-30T17:53:00.997-04:00LOL. Little Kirby has to censor comments for conte...LOL. Little Kirby has to censor comments for content. Can't let his readers think for themselves and form their own opinions. Critical thinking is dangerous! I can see you don't think Hillary Clinton is the "lesser of evils." She represents everything you stand for!<br /><br />-Bernie OrbustAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-58805934214411415642016-07-30T16:07:40.903-04:002016-07-30T16:07:40.903-04:00Surely you mean you sincerely hope, and what is li...Surely you mean you sincerely hope, and what is life without hope, that:<br /><br />"By law-and-order he didn't mean it literally. He meant police are free to beat and kill the disenfranchised.<br /><br />I also don't think he meant that he would literally punch the Democratic speakers."<br /><br />Because if you aren't full of hope that these statements are just of the "I'm kidding" variety, then you are nothing but a Trump apologist, and so far down the rathole you're merely apologizing for the dumb git and his highly uninformed and easily duped followers. Just like the types the first commenter wrote so lucidly about, merely following a bully leader because you're too wimpish to stand for something yourself. You will have become a sychophant for a man speaking from a bottomless well of ignorance.<br /><br />Quite why you should have such hope that underneath it all Trump is a great guy and that he's just kidding, while he's actually egging on the knuckledraggers tone-deaf to such nuances as his actual view being 180 degrees from what he states, is beyond my ken. Literally. (To re-use a word you banter around with so freely in your imagination)<br /><br />BMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-64484579667861282702016-07-30T11:25:44.827-04:002016-07-30T11:25:44.827-04:00"Personally I am entirely dumfounded by the i..."Personally I am entirely dumfounded by the idea of a presidential candidate in the 21st century who openly talks this way."<br /><br />Yeah much better if one shrugs off a Nobel Peace prize to become the Drone King (because it pays better.)<br /><br />I would much prefer Archie Bunker in the White House than someone who plans on profiting off of waging wars (hot and cold,) with Islam and Russia. <br /><br />If the bribe-taking corruption is not enough to turn people off of fake-liberal sellouts like the Clintons and Obomba, perhaps they should consider the spectre of war. <br /><br />Republican president Dwight Eisenhower warned of the 'feed me Seymour' military industrial complex. Hillary literally told plutocrats "war is a business opportunity."<br /><br />Although this meth-addict beauty contest is a tough one to judge, I have Trump slightly ahead in the "lesser of evils" column. <br /><br />Of course, there is nothing evil about Dr. Jill Stein and her progressive platform founded on tried-and-true Keynesian 'New Deal' economics.<br /><br />Hillary's neoliberal economics will only make the Great Recession worst, which will be 12-years long by 2020, ensuring an even nastier Republican revolution probably led by bible-thumper Ted Cruz. If Trump wins, this provides a springboard for an FDR-style New Deal led by Elizabeth Warren who would give meaning to the concept of first woman American president.<br /><br />-Bernie OrbustAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-1676644676219891682016-07-30T08:40:51.776-04:002016-07-30T08:40:51.776-04:00By law-and-order he didn't mean it literally. ...By law-and-order he didn't mean it literally. He meant police are free to beat and kill the disenfranchised.<br /><br />I also don't think he meant that he would literally punch the Democratic speakers.doconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04941265860606353518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5611409863712113861.post-65827940500446674902016-07-30T05:52:42.364-04:002016-07-30T05:52:42.364-04:00I believe that a lot of Trump's support has to...I believe that a lot of Trump's support has to do with pure sycophancy. I put it on his followers more so than on the man himself. He is the bully, perceived on account of his success and wealth as a superior individual, who has condescended to allow those would applaud him to partake in his debasement of the less powerful and the odd-man-out.<br /><br />Trump understands his audience. The enthusiasm that he generates seems to be rooted in the excitement experienced by the most timid and dangerously feeble when they feel that an opportunity has presented to escape their fear and insignificance by having been noticed by someone very important and, rather than being picked on, been deemed acceptable to join his team. I encountered this phenomenon a few times during forty years in the workplace, but I would have to recall back to the lower grades of elementary school to cite so undiluted an example or one that approaches the depth of ignorance and depravity that Trump and his followers put on daily display. Perhaps, having never graduated from the playground, his followers are so dim and soft-minded that they have no choice.<br /><br />Rather than strength or toughness, in his appeal and particularly within the ranks of his supporters, I see only weakness and pus.John B.noreply@blogger.com